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Wednesday, January 1, 2014

Kristian tidak terjejas jika tidak guna kalimah 'Allah'- Tun Dr Mahathir (The Old Senile Former PM)

KUALA LUMPUR: Pegangan penganut Kristian di Semenanjung tidak akan terjejas walaupun mereka tidak menggunakan kalimah 'Allah' bagi merujuk kepada Tuhan mereka, kata bekas perdana menteri Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad.

No Matter How Much You Pray Dear Dr Mahathir, God will not be by your side. A tyrant like you will only be loved by the Devil himself.

KUALA LUMPUR: Pegangan penganut Kristian di Semenanjung tidak akan terjejas walaupun mereka tidak menggunakan kalimah 'Allah' bagi merujuk kepada Tuhan mereka, kata bekas perdana menteri Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad.

Beliau berkata istilah Arab yang merujuk kepada Tuhan itu selalunya digunakan penganut Kristian di Sabah dan Sarawak.

"Selama ini, kita tak pernah berbalah tentang perkara ini kerana mereka (penganut Kristian di Semenanjung) tidak pernah menggunakan kalimah itu, jadi kenapa perlu menyakiti hati orang lain, tidak menggunakan kalimah 'Allah', tidak akan memudaratkan mereka.

"Sebelum ini, mereka tidak pernah menggunakannya pun. Yang menggunakannya ialah (orang) Sabah dan Sarawak. Tak ada bantahan, tapi di Semenanjung ni, kenapa kita nak jadikannya alasan untuk bergaduh pula," katanya kepada pemberita ketika ditemui di rumah terbuka Tahun Baharu Parti Progresif Penduduk (PPP) di Dewan Merdeka, Pusat Dagangan Dunia Putra di sini.

Dr Mahathir berkata sejak sekian lama, rakyat negara ini, tanpa mengira agama, hidup bersama secara aman dan oleh itu, sebarang tindakan yang boleh menyakiti hati sesuatu pihak, tidak patut dilakukan.

Jumaat lepas, paderi Lawrence Andrew, editor akhbar mingguan Katolik, Herald, dalam artikel yang disiarkan sebuah portal berita, berkata gereja Katolik di Selangor akan terus menggunakan kalimah 'Allah' dalam perhimpunan mingguannya yang menggunakan bahasa Malaysia.

Langkah ini bertentangan dengan hasrat Jabatan Agama Islam Selangor untuk menghantar surat peringatan kepada mereka berhubung enakmen yang melarang penggunaan kalimah itu oleh bukan Islam.

Kenyataan beliau itu menimbulkan kemarahan pelbagai pertubuhan bukan kerajaan, termasuk yang menyifatkan tindakan Andrew itu bukan sahaja mencabar sensitiviti umat Islam, tetapi juga tidak menghormati undang-undang.


  1. Hey Chris Darson. I am amazed how you judge Tun Dr M by his prayers and calling him a tyrant. What he said is true. Your belief is Jesus as the son of God and your concept is the trinity. In Islam, Allah is one. No son, no mother. Nothing. Allah is the one and only God. Why on earth would the Christians suddenly want to use Allah?

    Dr M is never Anti Christ. FYI, I am not too. I am not your enemy. But the way you put the picture with that caption below is too much. Is this what your belief taught you? To judge others? Close your foul mouth before you create an unwanted war with others. Seriously, you are crossing that line already. If you say your religion teaches you peace to others, then show it.

    Funny, when you said God will not be on Dr M's side, but the devil is. How ironic.

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    2. Thank you for your reply. Yes, we are merely humans and we are subject to making mistakes. Hope we won't make the same ones and regret it later. Well, I am not staying in Shah Alam anymore. That was 5 years ago. I've moved back to my hometown.

      Thank you for your invitation, though.

    3. Dear Reiko, a good one...hope we can really learn from our mistakes. Just remember....every wording that we use or said reflects the image of ourselves, our race..and our religion. TQ

  2. This thing is logic, dont need someone expert to see the whole story..cause we live by the word ISLAM so we shud know the fundamental of it at least. I do not condemn other religion but you see, saying that we (muslim) purposely do not allow the use of Allah in other religious book is totally unacceptable. We all know for sure, even there has been research done for years that the bible and other kitab existed, the one they have today is totally different than the original one brought by the prophets except Al-Quran by prophet Muhammad...So the used of Kalimah Allah as in 'Alif Lam Lam Ha' is like putting the original name in the unoriginal book right? So do you want as the owner of the original label for instance like LV, Gucci or Wardah or Dian Pelangi to be used on fake items? Moreover, If They were to believe that there is only one god in this whole universe with the name of Allah, then we have 98 other names of Allah that they have to use/believe in their Kitab? Cause Allah is part of the 99 names what? So to believe Allah is the only god, then they might as well say their syahadah submit themselve to the one and only god; Allah SWT..after all Al-Quran is the only proof brought down to Rasulullah SAW, the LAST prophet..that has never been tarnished/mislead/corrupted, will remain in its true form till the Last Day, and we use Allah in the Al-Quran..but to compare the original kitab (other than Quran) with the ones they had today and claim that they can use Allah is only word by the meaning of one god is totally bogus. They might as well use the original Kitab and they can use the word Allah SWT which was already there in the first place. Does it make any sense?? To believe Allah SWT is to believe the whole thing, not partially. Cause he is the one and only creator of all the books/kitab brought down to the prophets before. So why bother using the word 'Allah' when we know that you are just trying to mislead the Muslims? God is only one, and HE knows for sure your true intention for Islam will rise again, Nabi Isa A.S will be brought down back to earth and defeat the Dajjal. In time you will see..that the time is very near, dear friend.

    1. Dear Farah Diyana,

      Assalamualaikum and peace be upon you,

      I'm sorry to tell you this, but your Al-Quran is not all original as you claimed. It was proven that the Al-Quran was altered in the days of Sayidina Uthman. There are even a few copies of the Quranic text burnt just because some of the scholar back then was having a political dispute against who will reign as the Caliph.

      Study the history of your Al-Quran,Then come back here, and tell me, is your Al-Quran is the original Quran.

    2. Al Quran tidak pernah diubah dan apa yang berlaku pada zaman Saidina Uthman adalah pengumpulan semula dari penghafal al quran ketika itu. Untuk pengetahuan anda, Al Quran ialah sesuatu yang disampaikan melalui mulut dan bukan melalui kitab.It was speak not write.

      Sehingga hari ini penghafal Al Quran adalah sangat ramai, Semua orang islam sekurang-kurangnya menghafal 5 hingga 10 surah.Ini adalah sejak zaman Nabi Muhammad lagi.

      Sila buat kajian mengenai Al Quran sebelum anda mengatakan ia adalah palsu.Adakah anda sudah mengkajinya?

      Bagi kami Jesus adalah Nabi ISA dan ia diutuskan untuk kaum yahudi, Kami islam wajib mempercayai Jesus pbuh (ISA a.s) adalah Nabi yang diutuskan oleh Allah.Dan Jesus sendiri tidak pernah mengatakan bahawa dia adalah Tuhan di dalam bible.

      Jika anda inginkan jawapan-jawapan soalan anda boleh melayari youtube dan mendengar debat antara kristian dan islam dengan mendengar dari "Ahmad Deedat" dan "Zakir Naik"

      Semoga anda diberi hidayah dan petunjuk

    3. There you go. I think you are the one who dont understand...Every verse in the Quran is original. Whatever brought done to Muhammad SAW is exactly the same as in the Quran, never been subjected to change or distortion. As Allah says in the Quran: "We have without doubt, sent down the message and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption.)" (15:9).

      Go dig this yourself and read how we preserve the Quran (you probably surf on the anti-islamic page):

      I am not sure if the Bible has verses that say Allah SWT ( which you claim he is the on and only God on earth) will protect it till the end of time. I am also sure the bible do mention of the last prophet Muhammad if you believe in Allah SWT, you believe that Muhammad SAW is the last prophet of human kind? You believe that Nabi Isa or you called Jesus will be brought down alive to save mankind? So the one you worship is who?

      All religion is a peace religion, it is only when ppl like you start provoking other ppl and suddenly claim themselves a peace supporter makes ppl like me wonder...are your intention really true or perhaps you have your own hidden agenda? Cause by you posting this article on Tun M and even say this on the photo caption ' No Matter How Much You Pray Dear Dr Mahathir, God will not be by your side. A tyrant like you will only be loved by the Devil himself' makes me think you are no different...Whn you preach to ppl must you put down on others? I guess Tun M's article on this issue did not put down or condemn other ppl he just stated his opinion.

      Preachers dont condemn no matter what religion you are..and sadly speaking you are not one of them. Just a person who wants christians to monopolize Malaysia and make Christian the main religion. As long as Allah SWT is there, Islam will rise again. We may look like we are falling but we hv to fall in order to rise again. In time Islam will also proof that Nabi Isa A.S did not die. Did your bible mention it?

      You can say whatever you want and reject what ever i've said. I dont bother cause all you do is provoking. Not even a time you truly accept/understand my motion. I understand Christianity and how it happen, so I dont defy the religion..but I defy ppl like you who are full of 'unhealthy' intentions and taking advantage of the circumstances.

      Thanks for showing your true colour.



  3. You want war..we Muslim can crate WAR if you like.. just remember we are still THE MAJORITI in this country.. remember when it come to RELIGION we will UNITE.. so dont play with our sentimen..

    By the way can you CHRISTIANS in Malaysia QUOTE any from your POPE that ALLAH is your GOD??

    1. Assalamualaikum Zulkarnain Mahmud,

      We Christian are a peaceful religion. We do not want war against the Muslims.

      You will not unite. I've seen your corrupted Muslim leaders, if there is a war between Muslims and Christian, your own leader will run away and leave you behind. This is the truth.

      Muslims cannot be united because you do not have a leader at all. Who will lead your Muslim army? Najib Razak? Muhyiddin Yassin? These are all corrupt leaders.

      My advice is, choose a better leader next time before saying something about waging war against other religion.

      We want to use Allah because the word pre-dates Islam. Even your prophet's father Muhammad (Peace be upon him) was named Abdullah which means The servant of Allah. How can muslim claim that Allah is their word while the word has existed a long time ago, even before the arrival of Muhammad?

    2. Maaf saudara dari Kristian,mungkin anda belum habis mengkaji tentang islam.

      Islam bermula dari manusia pertama yang menjejakkan kaki ke bumi iaitu Nabi Adam a.s

      Disini saya senaraikan nabi yang telah diutuskan kepada manusia yang Islam wajib percaya dan beriman :

      1 . ADAM in Islam / ADAM in Christian
      2 . IDRIS in Islam / ENOCH in Christian
      3 . NUH in Islam / NOAH in Christian
      4 . HUUD in Islam / HEBER in Christian
      5 . SHALEH in Islam / SHELAH in Christian
      6 . IBRAHIM in Islam / ABRAHAM in Christian
      7 . LUTH in Islam / LOT in Christian
      8 . ISMAIL in Islam / ISHMAEL in Christian
      9 . ISHAQ in Islam / ISAAC in Christian
      10. YAKUB in Islam / YACOB in Christian
      11. YUSUF in Islam / YOSEPH in Christian
      12. AYUB in Islam / JOB in Christian
      13. ZULKIFLI in Islam / EZEKIEL in Christian
      14. SU'AIB in Islam / JETHRO in Christian
      15. YUNUS in Islam / JONAH in Christian
      16. MUSA in Islam / MOSES in Christian
      17. HARUN in Islam / AARON in Christian
      18. ILYAS in Islam / ELIJAH in Christian
      19. ILYASIN in Islam / ELISHA in Christian
      20. DAUD in Islam / DAVID in Christian
      21. SULAIMAN in Islam / SOLOMON in Christian
      22. ZAKARIA in Islam / ZECHARIAH in Christian
      23. YAHYA in Islam / JOHN the baptist
      24. ISA in Islam / YESUS in Christian
      25.MUHAMMAD only in Islam

      Muhammad is a final Prophet for human, It was last Messenger.
      Dianggarkan bahawa nabi dan rasul masing-masing berjumlah 124,000 dan 312 orang. Namun, yang wajib diimani oleh umat Islam hanya seramai 25 orang sahaja.

      Dan (Kami telah mengutus) rasul-rasul yang sungguh telah Kami kisahkan tentang mereka kepadamu dahulu, dan rasul-rasul yang tidak Kami kisahkan tentang mereka kepadamu. Dan Allah telah berbicara kepada Musa dengan langsung

      An-Nisa ayat 164

      (Terjemahan ke bahasa melayu dari Al Quran)

      Dan untuk makluman saudara kemana pun saya pergi Al Quran tetap sama, tidak kira di Amerika, Di India, China dan dimana-mana.Ianya adalah alquran yang tunggal dan tidak ada bezanya.Walaupun beribu-ribu tahun berlalu.

      Dalam 25 nabi hanya 4 orang diutuskan kitab iaitu :

      Nabi Daud - Zabur
      Nabi Musa as (Moses) - Taurat
      Nabi Isa as (Jesus) - Injil (Pope change it to bible, but word bible are not in bible itself)
      Nabi Muhammad saw - Al-Qur'an

      Islam is a peace religion,please tolong kaji al quran dahulu sebelum menyatakan ianya adalah penipuan.Tolong....I hope u can see the truth..

      About Najib? Are you think that is our leader? Don't you know about pondok, about Tok Guru, About Imam, About Ulama, Ustaz, Da'i, Thats all our leader..Im also a leader to my Family.

      Dalam kitab suci Al-Quran Allah SWT telah menjelaskan melalui Surah Al-Ikhlas Ayat 1 – 4 maksudnya;-

      1) Katakanlah (wahai Muhammad): (Tuhanku) ialah Allah Yang Maha Esa;
      2) Allah Yang menjadi tumpuan sekalian makhluk untuk memohon sebarang hajat;
      3) Ia tiada beranak, dan Ia pula tidak diperanakkan;
      4) Dan tidak ada sesiapapun yang serupa denganNya.